Basically Sabellian being in outland for as long as he was far far away from the azerothian old gods freed him from their influence after a time, along with the other black dragons on outland, plus now that they've returned all of the azerothian old gods (that we know of) are dead Sabellian, a believer in Sabellianism, the nontrinitarian belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are different modes or aspects of one God, rather than three distinct persons in God Himself Sabellian languages, another name for the Osco-Umbrian languagesThe only real distinction here that I want to make and the reason I bring this up is that the Arakkoa have long since been corrupted by the void because of Sethe but no old god influences are really seen in Outlands. Sabellian should have never seen or heard whispers in Outlands. 4. 2 more replies. Jan 23, 2023 · Sabellian Exclusive Rewards. Obsidian Spellweaver’s Stave (staff transmog) Obsidian Guard’s Barrier (shield transmog) Obsidian Guard’s Cutlass (one-handed sword transmog) Sabellian 27.6 56.5 - Need 20 Restored Obsidian Key to start Event Death's Shadow now you can kill Rare Death's Shadow is spawn around 30 54 but He is flying around You need to pull him. For making better reputation You can buy items from Xaldrass 27.7 56.2Key turn in locations: /way #2022 26.70 62.60 Wrathion /way #2022 27.61 56.53 Sabellian /way #2022 32.29 52.45 Igys the Believer /way #2022 24.80 61.09 Forgemaster Bazentus Sabellianism. In Christianity, Sabellianism is the Eastern Church equivalent to Patripassianism in the Western Church, which are both forms of theological modalism. Condemned as heresy, Modalism is the belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three different modes of God, as opposed to a Trinitarian view of three distinct persons within ...World of Warcraft: Dragonflight (2022) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDbSabellian's Gloves - Item - World of Warcraft. View in 3D Links. Quick Facts. Screenshots. Videos.Sabellian is an Elite NPC that can be found in Zaralek Cavern. In the NPCs category. Added in World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Always up to date. Sabellian: I apologize for any misunderstandings, Life-Binder. But any report of our extinction is premature. Sabellian: The eggs were never in danger. The cart, and my presence, were merely to draw the attention of our foes and allow my flight to move unobserved. Sabellian: I have spent millennia rebuilding my flight.Sablemane is a Black Dragon but his real name is Sabellian. His children are the Black dragons impaled on all those stones. But that brings up the question of where did he come from? Did he follow Deathwing in when Deathwing hid his clutch or did he journey to the Outlands with his own clutch at a later time.Sabellian: I apologize for any misunderstandings, Life-Binder. But any report of our extinction is premature. Sabellian: The eggs were never in danger. The cart, and my presence, were merely to draw the attention of our foes and allow my flight to move unobserved. Sabellian: I have spent millennia rebuilding my flight.Mar 18, 2023 · Players may also notice some familiar faces, as Ebyssian, Wrathion, Sabellian, and Scalecommander Emberthal have come to investigate Neltharion's secret laboratory for themselves. As we know, the four are heavily involved in the Embers of Neltharion campaign, as each struggle to come to terms with their father's twisted legacy. Sabellian is an Elite NPC that can be found in The Waking Shores. In the NPCs category. Added in World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Always up to date. Sabellianism emphasized the fact that God is one, wrongly concluding that in the Godhead there is a single (mon-) principle or rule (-arche). Thus the heresy was also called “Monarchianism.”. Sabellians explained their position by saying that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not three Persons, but three functions or modes of a ...Black Wagon Flight - First Fly to 43.8 66.3 the nspeak with Sabellian and then escort them. When wagon will be destroy fly 57 67.3 is very high make sure You have vigor xD not like me xD. 4. The Last Eggtender - Wait until conversation will finish then go 61.5 68.7. 5.Sabellian is an Elite NPC. The location of this NPC is unknown. In the NPCs category. Added in World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade. Always up to date. Sabellian 27.6 56.5 - Need 20 Restored Obsidian Key to start Event Death's Shadow now you can kill Rare Death's Shadow is spawn around 30 54 but He is flying around You need to pull him. For making better reputation You can buy items from Xaldrass 27.7 56.2Deathwing's lieutenant Sabellian is still present in the disguise of "Baron Sablemane", a human. He, like Rexxar who has returned to Blade's Edge Mountains to protect the remaining Mok'Nathal from the gronn and ogres, and Mog'dorg the Wizened, gives quests to kill Gruul's sons. Ultimately, this ends the gronn's control over the ogre clans of ... Sep 14, 2022 · Ensemble: Sabellian's Battlegear Cloth Armor This is a Cloth ensemble that grants an armor appearance similar to the one Sabellian himself uses in Dragonflight! The armor set comes in both Robe and Tunic variety. Sabellian's Battlegear - Robe Sabellian's Battlegear - Tunic Note: The pants are glitched like that in-game. Items Sold by Both Dragons Sablemane is a Black Dragon but his real name is Sabellian. His children are the Black dragons impaled on all those stones. But that brings up the question of where did he come from? Did he follow Deathwing in when Deathwing hid his clutch or did he journey to the Outlands with his own clutch at a later time.Sabellian is a black dragon, son of the black Dragon Aspect, Deathwing. He was one of his lieutenants prior to the black Aspect's abandonment of Draenor. During the black dragonflight's alliance with Ner'zhul's Horde, Sabellian and his brethren transported the orc chieftains Fenris Wolfbrother...Sabellian. Sabellian, a believer in Sabellianism, the nontrinitarian belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are different modes or aspects of one God, rather than three distinct persons in God Himself. Sabellian languages, another name for the Osco-Umbrian languages. Sabellians a collective ethnonym for a group of Italic peoples or tribes ... Jan 28, 2023 · Definitely Sabellian, Wrathion has caused too much pain and suffering on Azeroth and Draenor to prove that he only views the mortal races as toys to play with, and even break at will. He’s a hair’s breadth away from being a raid boss, basically. Sabellian is experienced, and committed to serving his flight. As of 12/12/2022, the tooltip states : Reach Friend reputation with Sabellian. This achievement actually gets rewarded upon reaching True Friend with Sabellian (6/6) instead of 5/6. Tooltip seems wrong. This is the counterpart to True Friends with WrathionThe only real distinction here that I want to make and the reason I bring this up is that the Arakkoa have long since been corrupted by the void because of Sethe but no old god influences are really seen in Outlands. Sabellian should have never seen or heard whispers in Outlands. 4. 2 more replies. Sabellianism, Christian heresy that was a more developed and less naive form of Modalistic Monarchianism ( see Monarchianism ); it was propounded by Sabellius (fl. c. 217– c. 220), who was possibly a presbyter in Rome. Little is actually known of his life because the most detailed information about him was contained in the prejudiced reports ... Gains. Upon completion of this quest you will gain: 60 reputation with Valdrakken Accord. 500 reputation with Sabellian. See if you've already completed this by typing: /run print (C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted (72874)) Jan 12, 2023 · WoW: Dragonflight Allegiance to One choice. You'll meet both Wrathion and Sabellian while you work your way through the campaign in the Waking Shores, but it's not until you reach level 70 that ... Sabellian: I have been battle tested and hardened from years of battle against Gruul and his offspring. Sabellian: I do not need to claim this throne. It is mine! I am next in the line of succession. I do not even know your lineage. Sabellian: Father entrusted me with the future of the Black Dragonflight.World of Warcraft: Dragonflight (Video Game 2022) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more.Jan 23, 2023 · Sabellian Exclusive Rewards. Obsidian Spellweaver’s Stave (staff transmog) Obsidian Guard’s Barrier (shield transmog) Obsidian Guard’s Cutlass (one-handed sword transmog) Sabellianism, Christian heresy that was a more developed and less naive form of Modalistic Monarchianism ( see Monarchianism ); it was propounded by Sabellius (fl. c. 217– c. 220), who was possibly a presbyter in Rome.If you standing next to Forgemaster Bazentus and some one will hit 10 Restored Obsidian Key You will get 100 rep for Wrathion and Sabellian just that you are close :D. Killing Shas'ith will give 250 for Wrathion can be multiple times in a day. Killing Death's Shadow will give 250 for Sabellian can be multiple times in a day.Dec 8, 2022 · Sabellian is a bit more unknown to players in World of Warcraft 's history than Wrathion. He is the son of Deathwing and hid for decades in Outland ruling the remaining black dragons in the mountains. His commitment seems centered fully on gaining power rather than protecting the greater good of Azeroth. Sabellius (fl. ca. 215) was a third-century priest and theologian who most likely taught in Rome, but may have been a North African from Libya. Basil and others call him a Libyan from Pentapolis, but this seems to rest on the fact that Pentapolis was a place where the teachings of Sabellius thrived, according to Dionysius of Alexandria, c. 260. A Warrior outfit containing 19 items. A custom transmog set created with Wowhead's Dressing Room tool. By Kimerus. In the Warrior Outfits category.Sabellian: Defense Prepared (20 Obsidian keys) Forgemaster Bazentus: Imbued Armor and Weapons (10 Obsidian keys) Igys the Believer: Morchok Reformed (10 Obsidian keys) (Image credit: Blizzard)Sabellian is Deathwings' genocidal general who cured black dragonflight of old god corruption, according to Sabellian. Now, from a storytelling perspective it wouldn't make sense to have him and his black dragons fall to corruption, as we would be spinning in circles story wise, and ultimately nobody would care, he would be just another raid.In the Waking Shores, Wrathion and Sabellian sought to claim the Earth-Warder's throne at the Obsidian Citadel for themselves. A Deathwing-worshiping cult called the Worldbreakers can also be found, formed by an ogre Twilight's Hammer cultist who convinced groups of black dragonspawn and drakonid that Deathwing would one day return. Posted October 15, 2022. Each week, you can swear allegiance to Sabellian or Wrathion in Dragonflight. While the Black Dragonflight currently has no leader, players can be loyal to either Sabellian, who has returned from Outland, or Wrathion every week. For the week, you will complete quests that only increase your current standing with one of ...Sabellian, a believer in Sabellianism, the nontrinitarian belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are different modes or aspects of one God, rather than three distinct persons in God Himself Sabellian languages, another name for the Osco-Umbrian languagesOct 12, 2022 · choosing sabellian over wrathion 🚩🚩🚩🚩 my man wrathion was pretty much genetically engineered to be the new aspect of the black dragonflight and found a cure for the corruption that’s plagued his flight for 10,000 years, and u guys think the dude who’s been doing nothing but sitting on his ass in outland and only shows up now ... Sabellian is Deathwings' genocidal general who cured black dragonflight of old god corruption, according to Sabellian. Now, from a storytelling perspective it wouldn't make sense to have him and his black dragons fall to corruption, as we would be spinning in circles story wise, and ultimately nobody would care, he would be just another raid.Sabellian also claims or at least the black dragons that came along with him to have clenased the corruption and gathered the black drakes together and defend the future clutch in outland. Wrathion used that unique model for a few expansions already.Sabellian: Defense Prepared (20 Obsidian keys) Forgemaster Bazentus: Imbued Armor and Weapons (10 Obsidian keys) Igys the Believer: Morchok Reformed (10 Obsidian keys) (Image credit: Blizzard)Keys turn in gives rep with Wrathion or Sabellian depending on which one you choose. And they have different rewards vendors: Lorena Belle & Samia Inkling; Turn in to:Sabellianism emphasized the fact that God is one, wrongly concluding that in the Godhead there is a single (mon-) principle or rule (-arche). Thus the heresy was also called “Monarchianism.”. Sabellians explained their position by saying that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not three Persons, but three functions or modes of a ...Dec 6, 2022 · Sabellian was both Deathwing’s son and his second-in-command. Sabellian was a trusted lieutenant and son of Neltharion, the aspect of the Black Dragonflight better known to us as Deathwing. To secure the future of the Black Dragonflight, Deathwing devised a plan. Sabellian and a party of Black dragons, using the Jeweled Scepter of Sargeras ... If you standing next to Forgemaster Bazentus and some one will hit 10 Restored Obsidian Key You will get 100 rep for Wrathion and Sabellian just that you are close :D. Killing Shas'ith will give 250 for Wrathion can be multiple times in a day. Killing Death's Shadow will give 250 for Sabellian can be multiple times in a day. Sabellian and Wrathion both believe that they're the ones to lead their flight into the future. We get a choice on wh... Two black dragons, 1 throne...1 legacy! Sabellian and Wrathion both believe ... Apr 11, 2023 · Wrathion and Sabellian rep rewards in World of Warcraft. While there are plenty of cosmetics to work toward, the 389 item level neck and 398 item level cape are what many players will have their eyes on. For players who don't like doing Mythic+ dungeons or raids, this will be some of the highest item level gear they can get. Gains. Upon completion of this quest you will gain: 60 reputation with Valdrakken Accord. 500 reputation with Sabellian. See if you've already completed this by typing: /run print (C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted (72874))Dec 1, 2022 · Sabellian's Claim to the Dragonflight Throne. While Wrathion may be one of the last surviving black dragons on Azeroth, Sabellian leads his own flight in Outland. He is the son of Deathwing, and ... Sabellian is a black dragon, son of the black Dragon Aspect, Deathwing. He was one of his lieutenants prior to the black Aspect's abandonment of Draenor. During the black dragonflight's alliance with Ner'zhul's Horde, Sabellian and his brethren transported the orc chieftains Fenris Wolfbrother...Sabellian and Wrathion both believe that they're the ones to lead their flight into the future. We get a choice on wh... Two black dragons, 1 throne...1 legacy! Sabellian and Wrathion both believe ... Sabellian: Defense Prepared (20 Obsidian keys) Forgemaster Bazentus: Imbued Armor and Weapons (10 Obsidian keys) Igys the Believer: Morchok Reformed (10 Obsidian keys) (Image credit: Blizzard)Sabellian: I apologize for any misunderstandings, Life-Binder. But any report of our extinction is premature. Sabellian: The eggs were never in danger. The cart, and my presence, were merely to draw the attention of our foes and allow my flight to move unobserved. Sabellian: I have spent millennia rebuilding my flight.Sabellian: Defense Prepared (20 Obsidian keys) Forgemaster Bazentus: Imbued Armor and Weapons (10 Obsidian keys) Igys the Believer: Morchok Reformed (10 Obsidian keys) (Image credit: Blizzard)Basically Sabellian being in outland for as long as he was far far away from the azerothian old gods freed him from their influence after a time, along with the other black dragons on outland, plus now that they've returned all of the azerothian old gods (that we know of) are deadKeys turn in gives rep with Wrathion or Sabellian depending on which one you choose. And they have different rewards vendors: Lorena Belle & Samia Inkling; Turn in to:Jan 12, 2023 · WoW: Dragonflight Allegiance to One choice. You'll meet both Wrathion and Sabellian while you work your way through the campaign in the Waking Shores, but it's not until you reach level 70 that ... Moderators. 987. 2,501 posts. Report post. Posted November 30, 2022. We're looking at some of the new cutscenes from Dragonflight, starring Wrathion, Sabellian, and Alexstrasza. Keep in mind the cutscenes may contain story spoilers.Sabellian is an Elite NPC that can be found in The Waking Shores. In the NPCs category. Added in World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Always up to date.Sablemane is a Black Dragon but his real name is Sabellian. His children are the Black dragons impaled on all those stones. But that brings up the question of where did he come from? Did he follow Deathwing in when Deathwing hid his clutch or did he journey to the Outlands with his own clutch at a later time.Mar 18, 2023 · Players may also notice some familiar faces, as Ebyssian, Wrathion, Sabellian, and Scalecommander Emberthal have come to investigate Neltharion's secret laboratory for themselves. As we know, the four are heavily involved in the Embers of Neltharion campaign, as each struggle to come to terms with their father's twisted legacy. Nov 29, 2022 · Wrathion Fights Sabellian For the Black Dragonflight Throne. All Dragonflight Cutscenes. After saving Alexstrasza from Raszageth's killing blow, Wrathion enc... Sabellian: I apologize for any misunderstandings, Life-Binder. But any report of our extinction is premature. Sabellian: The eggs were never in danger. The cart, and my presence, were merely to draw the attention of our foes and allow my flight to move unobserved. Sabellian: I have spent millennia rebuilding my flight.Sabellian Quartermaster Location WoW. You can find World of Warcraft Sabellian Quartermaster Reputation Vendor following this video guide. World of Warcraft ...Dec 4, 2022 · Sabellian Quartermaster Location WoW. You can find World of Warcraft Sabellian Quartermaster Reputation Vendor following this video guide. World of Warcraft ... Une fois 3 Gabarit de clé et 30 Fragments de clé, vous pourrez les combiner pour créer une grande clé en obsidienne. Vous pourrez alors rendre la clé à Sabellian et récupérer votre Coffre renforcé d'obsidienne avec d'importantes récompenses à l'intérieur. Une fois ceci fait, vous débloquerez 4 quêtes hebdomadaires chez certains ...Sabellian managed to get all his black dragons uncorrupted on a dying planet while fighting off Gronn. He is a natural leader, is much older than Wrathion, and a less explosive reactionary. Wrathion is a baby dragon wuss that went full homicidal maniac and killed any black dragon he saw instead of trying to figure out a way to remove the ...Sabellian's Gloves - Item - World of Warcraft. View in 3D Links. Quick Facts. Screenshots. Videos.Sabellian, a believer in Sabellianism, the nontrinitarian belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are different modes or aspects of one God, rather than three distinct persons in God Himself Sabellian languages, another name for the Osco-Umbrian languagesYeah, Sabellian is his actual son who was born at least 10000 years ago before his downfall. Deathwing couldn't successfully mate with anyone except for Sintharia after the War of the Ancients, and we know he's not from Sintharia's clutch but Nyxondra, who was forced to lay eggs by the red dragon Rheastrasza.Dec 8, 2022 · Sabellian is a bit more unknown to players in World of Warcraft 's history than Wrathion. He is the son of Deathwing and hid for decades in Outland ruling the remaining black dragons in the mountains. His commitment seems centered fully on gaining power rather than protecting the greater good of Azeroth. Comment by hollyberries I was driving myself crazy trying to figure out why my Hunter could see this ensemble for purchase but my Rogue couldn't. I thought maybe it was a glitch, like it wasn't supposed to show as available until later.Sabellianism. In Christianity, Sabellianism is the Eastern Church equivalent to Patripassianism in the Western Church, which are both forms of theological modalism. Condemned as heresy, Modalism is the belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three different modes of God, as opposed to a Trinitarian view of three distinct persons within ...Sabellianism. In Christianity, Sabellianism is the Eastern Church equivalent to Patripassianism in the Western Church, which are both forms of theological modalism. Condemned as heresy, Modalism is the belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three different modes of God, as opposed to a Trinitarian view of three distinct persons within ...Key turn in locations: /way #2022 26.70 62.60 Wrathion /way #2022 27.61 56.53 Sabellian /way #2022 32.29 52.45 Igys the Believer /way #2022 24.80 61.09 Forgemaster Bazentus Mar 18, 2023 · Players may also notice some familiar faces, as Ebyssian, Wrathion, Sabellian, and Scalecommander Emberthal have come to investigate Neltharion's secret laboratory for themselves. As we know, the four are heavily involved in the Embers of Neltharion campaign, as each struggle to come to terms with their father's twisted legacy.
Basically Sabellian being in outland for as long as he was far far away from the azerothian old gods freed him from their influence after a time, along with the other black dragons on outland, plus now that they've returned all of the azerothian old gods (that we know of) are dead. Gm dtc p06dd 00
Réputation Irion et Sabellian, comment les monter au niveau Amitié Sincère ? Les Réputations d'Irion et Sabellian sont assez longues à monter. Vous devez passer 6 paliers différents jusqu'à atteindre la réputation Amitié Sincère donnant accès notamment à une cape 398 ilevel, des teintures noires pour les drakes et si vous avez les deux réputations, un Mammouth de lave.Mark of Sargha drop at a relatively low rate from Djaradin mobs around Obsidian citadel. They are redeemable for reputation from either Sabellian OR Wrathion's quartermaster. Selecting to support Wrathion prevents you from turning them into Sabellian's quartermaster in the same week and vice versa for supporting Sabellian.Historia de Sabellian y como es que su aparicion en Dragonflight podria cambiarle todos los planes al dragon negro WrathionQuieres reducir el Ping/ms/latenci... Oct 15, 2022 · Posted October 15, 2022. Each week, you can swear allegiance to Sabellian or Wrathion in Dragonflight. While the Black Dragonflight currently has no leader, players can be loyal to either Sabellian, who has returned from Outland, or Wrathion every week. For the week, you will complete quests that only increase your current standing with one of ... Sabellius (fl. ca. 215) was a third-century priest and theologian who most likely taught in Rome, but may have been a North African from Libya. Basil and others call him a Libyan from Pentapolis, but this seems to rest on the fact that Pentapolis was a place where the teachings of Sabellius thrived, according to Dionysius of Alexandria, c. 260.By the time Ebyssian, Sabellian, and their allies made it to the Caldera, the djaradin already managed to awaken two of the four Elders, while Elder Ignara was still slumbering and Elder Rashok remained missing from his shrine. Once Fyrakk finished absorbing the shadowflames, he emerged from his wellspring and awakened Elder Ignara. The Obsidian Brood[1] refers to the group of black dragons that were shepherded and cared for by Sabellian on Outland. Having been originally placed on Draenor by Deathwing, the clutch was abandoned after the mad aspect's plans went awry and the planet later exploded. Having bent Blade's Edge to their will, the Obsidian Brood returned to Azeroth upon the re-awakening of the Dragon ...Mar 18, 2023 · Players may also notice some familiar faces, as Ebyssian, Wrathion, Sabellian, and Scalecommander Emberthal have come to investigate Neltharion's secret laboratory for themselves. As we know, the four are heavily involved in the Embers of Neltharion campaign, as each struggle to come to terms with their father's twisted legacy. Comment by hollyberries I was driving myself crazy trying to figure out why my Hunter could see this ensemble for purchase but my Rogue couldn't. I thought maybe it was a glitch, like it wasn't supposed to show as available until later. The teams don't matter. This is the Sylvanas loyalists all over again with better rewards. Ironically the better rewards are for Sabellian's side likely to be like hey you didn't have a chance at winning but here's some cool stuff. bubblehearth85 • 9 mo. ago. Never did like Wrathion much so I’m Sabellian all the way. Sabellius (fl. ca. 215) was a third-century priest and theologian who most likely taught in Rome, but may have been a North African from Libya. Basil and others call him a Libyan from Pentapolis, but this seems to rest on the fact that Pentapolis was a place where the teachings of Sabellius thrived, according to Dionysius of Alexandria, c. 260.Sabellianism emphasized the fact that God is one, wrongly concluding that in the Godhead there is a single (mon-) principle or rule (-arche). Thus the heresy was also called “Monarchianism.”. Sabellians explained their position by saying that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not three Persons, but three functions or modes of a ...Dec 30, 2022 · Sabellian also claims or at least the black dragons that came along with him to have clenased the corruption and gathered the black drakes together and defend the future clutch in outland. Wrathion used that unique model for a few expansions already. Sabellian is an Elite NPC that can be found in The Waking Shores. In the NPCs category. Added in World of Warcraft: Dragonflight. Always up to date. Dec 2, 2022 · Wrathion and Sabellian are sons of the black dragon Aspect, Neltharion, otherwise known as Deathwing. After we help them reclaim the Obsidian Citadel, the seat of power for black Aspect, Wrathion ... Sabellian was a trusted lieutenant and son of Neltharion, the aspect of the Black Dragonflight better known to us as Deathwing. To secure the future of the Black Dragonflight, Deathwing devised a plan. Sabellian and a party of Black dragons, using the Jeweled Scepter of Sargeras, brought clutches of Black dragon eggs to Draenor.Oct 15, 2022 · Posted October 15, 2022. Each week, you can swear allegiance to Sabellian or Wrathion in Dragonflight. While the Black Dragonflight currently has no leader, players can be loyal to either Sabellian, who has returned from Outland, or Wrathion every week. For the week, you will complete quests that only increase your current standing with one of ... Undaunted Sabellian attempted to assassinate Fyrakk only to fail as the Incarnate had been prepared for an attempt by the djaradin. With a blast of shadowflame, Fyrakk blasted them away and awakened Igira. As Ebyssian attempted to bring Sabellian and the adventurer to safety, he was pierced by the elder's spear and collapsed to the ground..